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STARTED : 1970's

AREA : Morris Park Bronx New York

Lines Hit : 2's, 5's, 4's, 3's, D's, D's, CC's.

Writing Groups : MPC, SLICK INC

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.............M.P.C THE UNTOLD STORY

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SLIP 3 was a Bronx based writer from the Morris Park section and original prez of the M.P.C crew. SLIP 3 and his partner in crime COLT ( RIP ) took over the 2 and 5 line in the the late 1970's till the early 1980's, a Subway line which was dominated by BLADE and COMET for many years. Many referred to the two as the Mini BLADE and COMET of the 2 and 5 line and just like BLADE and COMET the two kept to an original style of painting and preferred not to copy others styles that were popular at the time. COLT and SLIP started a local writing group call M.P.C ( MORRIS PARK CREW ) which would thrive in their

section of the Bronx. CAP would later take over the group and make the crew unforgettable through out the 1980's. ***************

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......................................................................................................................................................................................Interview Conducted 1- 12 - 08

1.) When and where did you start writing and what did you choose to the name SLIP 3

I started writing in 1975, though didn’t start getting up on the trains until early 1977. At that time, I was living on Radcliff and Morris Park Avenue in the Bronx. Most people assumed I got my name from the band THE WHO By Numbers album because there is a song called Slip Kid. But the truth is I was a big bowery boys fan (old show from the 40's) and the leader’s name was Slip, also Mugsy, I think. The number wasn’t important until I found out there was already a Slip 1, and crazy enough, I knew a guy one year older than me at JHS 127, Michael Meade, who wrote Slip 2. He never did get up on the trains or anything, though. I was mad because my partner, Colt was already sporting the number 1, and I wasn’t happy not having the number 1, I wanted to be number 1! So, I tried the number 2 instead but still didn’t like it. Then Colt suggested that I use the number 3 being that it also rhymes with M.P.C. When I tagged it with the number 3, I finally agreed that it looked better than the number 2.

As a 13 year old kid the writing scene was exciting in those early years because there were so many people already bombing all over the city—especially in the Bronx. I didn’t know much then, but I knew one thing: I wanted to be involved with it and everything that it entailed. I started out bombing up and down Morris Park Avenue from 180 Street down to Eastchester Road. It was during this time that I started hitting the buses down by Jacobi Hospital. What was also unique about the writing scene back then was that it wasn’t just a black, white, or Hispanic thing. It was an everybody thing. The things that stood out the most to me at that time were all the tags on the buses. I remember seeing the Throggs Neck Crew (TNC) and Batch TBB (The Bronx Boys). In my neighborhood I was always surrounded by tags from Crazy Five members Shorty 5 and John 150. Also, there was Ale 1, Hippie 44, and Blade and Comet. So, not only are these the names I looked up to and who were obviously older than me at the time, but are people I knew and hung out with—especially Shorty Also, there was Billy 167. I was fortunate because he did me a piece, only because I bugged the shit out of him. That was the template I used but I wasn’t close. ( " THE CRAZY FIVE " )

2. Could you tell us about your first experience hitting the Subways and where it was?

The first The first time I hit the Subway trains was around 1977 with John 150 and a cousin of mine. It was early one cold, overcast, Sunday morning around 9:00 A.M. at the Esplanade (Morris Park) layups. John was crazy. He had on him that day two cans of Red Devil paint: baby blue and black. He jumped off the platform onto the tracks and we followed him. He started piecing right there. I only put up a tag. That was my first time actually putting paint to a train. The smell of the paint and that tunnel combined was like a drug and I was addicted immediately. The first writers I met were, again, guys in my neighborhood: John 150 and Shorty 5. Shortly after that, though, the next group of writers I met was the UA boys: Seen, Mad, Dust and a few others. I remember when I first met them. They came to our neighborhood and I thought they were going to kick our asses (lol), but it was all good. Soon after our first meeting, we hung out with them in Westchester Square area of the Bronx and together we robbed a paint store. Craziness. My first writing partners—and I mean the originals—were Wedge 3 and Speed 3.r.i.p. Unfortunately, both Wedge and Speed r.i.p. didn’t get up much and take it as serious as I did and shortly thereafter they both stopped writing. My real partner, another childhood friend from third grade, with whom MPC really took off with, was Colt 1 (RIP). Shortly after that came Rock 161 and Kass. Though I take full credit

for creating MPC, it was actually the brainstorm of Wedge 3, Speed 3 R.I.P, and me. Again, both Wedge and Speed didn’t take it as serious as I did and soon after stopped writing. MPC stands for Morris Park Crew. All of the original members lived on or around Morris Park Avenue at the time—big brainstorming, I know. The original members who solidified us as a writing crew in the early days were myself, Colt 1(RIP), Rock 161, my brother Ace 5, Pieces, Jim 167, Spy 2, Take,Vile1 (Smiley Little Stevie) Cap aka ( Sarge 34) Kass1, Rook 2 (RIP), Kid 167 , KM 177 (RIP) CAL 3. After I stepped off in 1982, Cap took over the reins and built the crew to what it is now

3.) Would you have any raid ( chase stories ) you can share with us?

I have a couple of raids I can share. One Saturday night we were in the Esplanade Tunnel and cops came in through the Pelham Parkway side. Anyone could smell the paint in the tunnel so it was obvious there were writers in there. At least the cops knew we were there. They started to chase us. Colt and me had to run through the lay-ups towards the Esplanade side, and there were 2 cops on that side waiting for us as well. Obviously we were nervous and could hear them on their walkie-talkies echoing through the tunnel. We hid for a while. Then we worked our way toward the opposite side of the lay-ups away from where

they were and ran down towards the Brady Avenue overpass. They spotted us again, but we jumped down while they were chasing us and got away. Another time was between Pelham Parkway and Bronx Park East on the elevated lay-ups. Cops came up from the Bronx Park East side. We had to hide for like 2 hours inside of the train until they left. Then we worked our way towards Pelham Parkway. Trying to run on an elevated track is a lot harder and scarier—especially when stoned—than running on an underground track. There are many more, but these 2 stories come to mind. How My partnership started with COLT? Well, back to Wedge

and Speed. After they stopped writing, Colt stepped up to the plate and we took off from there. Colt and I grew up together since third grade. We both went to PS 83, JHS 127, and Columbus HS (not that we ever went to class let alone graduate!) We did everything together: sleepovers, picnics, cutting school, getting high, everything. So tagging together was natural. Once we started hitting trains, we planned our weeks around racking paint and bombing on the weekends. One weekend during 1977, we met Blade and Comet at Esplanade. They helped us out with our original throw up style and we proceeded to take that to the next level. Every weekend was an adventure. Just going to the lay-ups and meeting people from all around the City was exciting and fun.

4. ) CAP was interviewed a few years ago on his reason for the WAR he took out on the Subways in the early 1980's. One of them was to get back at Comet for going over you Colt. He stated that the M.P.C crew was like a close family and all the members stuck side by side for one another. Could you gives us your thoughts on that? I think Cap’s statement as far as MPC being a family is true. But it is hard for me to get into someone’s head about a statement that was made 25 years ago pertaining to crossing out other people’s work. Like I pointed out in question no. 10, he probably thought if you went over one of my pieces or anybody in my crew that I will go over yours. Even 25 years later, and I haven’t seen him, I still consider him my friend. If he was your friend he would do anything for you. And he did just that for our crew and me. There is a big misconception on , our group that really needs to be cleared up. Though the crew was pronominally white writers, We were not a bunch of raciest like allot of the bull shit that is being said out there about us! That is far from the truth is you had ROCK 161 who was an original member who was not white but Hawaiian, (even though many thought he was Puerto Rican.) RUSH MPC, REST BANE, BOM 5, REBEL and DOSE were all Puerto Rican. MPC went even beyond the Graffiti. We had members who were not just Graffiti writers that did other shit I can’t really get in to. We use to give parties in the park where I lived were people would come

From all around to hang out and have a good time. *SMILY 149* ( Rip ) was a good friend and hung out with us quite a bit as well as *Shy 147* ( R.I.P ) This is a little before he had beef with CAP. Shy was the nicest guy in the world plus there were a few other names I can’t remember at this time. These guys were not white, which all this B.S floating around about us being a racist crew comes from people that don’t know anything about us. For the record SMILY 149 and SHY 147 were members of our crew.

5.) Could you tell us all the yards and lay up's you have hit over those years? I hit a lot of yards. As for lay-ups, Esplanade lay-up was always home (2s and 5s) I’ve bombed in the Ghost Yards, 6 yard, . AS far as the BMTs we bombed the cc and d trains.. We were probably up most between 78-82. I am guessing, I don’t think we were ever kings of those lines but on the other hand look who we were up against. Blade and Comet - they were at this game long before us. We looked up to those guys a great deal at that age but you got to remember in 1978 I was 14, they were 21-22 years old. That’s a huge difference. For 2 kids we gave it a shot. When I look back we were into everything: music, girls, what kind of cars we would buy, hanging out and partying. We couldn’t just focus on graffiti, there was a whole world to explore.

*As far as other writing groups , I was in " W.S* " ( *Wild Style* ). Some years later I moved to the west side of the Bronx, 231^st& Broadway and met up with Tracy168 in the early to mid-80s. That was the start of my downward cycle (lol). We just started hanging out a lot we had a lot of great times. In fact Tracy lived with Billy167 over on Kingsbridge Avenue in the Bronx.

6.) COLT 1 passed away some years ago. Could you tell us how he died My partner Colt died a tragic death. To make a long story short, it revolved around drugs. He was trying to get away from a person who was chasing him. He climbed out of a window 4 stories up to trying to get to the next window, which had a fire escape, he didn’t make it and fell. He landed on his back and head. Died on his way to the hospital. 7.) Do you recall other writers going over any of your work and members of your crew? I wasn’t aware of anybody going over my stuff, in fact, this is the first time I heard of Comet going over my stuff. I don’t know why he would. Him and Blade helped me and Colt with our throw up style and were very encouraging about the amount of bombing we did before even meeting them. So the answer to your question is no. As far as crew members are concerned, I think it’s fair to say those problems came along after Cap started really getting up and whose point of view was ”you mess with me or my crew and I’ll destroy you!” 8.) Did you have any competition when you were getting up on the Subways and who were they? There were so many writers getting up big on the Subways in my era. Me personally, I never looked at writing as competition. As far as getting around, there were a ton of writers that not only bombed, but there were those who also had a lot of artistic ability. As Cap said in Style Wars, “there are graffiti artists and graffiti bombers.” The ones that come to mind are: BLADE & COMET, LEE, SEEN UA, PJAY UA, DUST UA, DONDI aka BUS 129, MITCH77, ZEPHYR, REVOLT, BILROCK aka SAGE, BAN 2, IZ THE WIZ, QUIK, CRASH, DAZE, KEL 139, FUZZ ONE, FED 2, TEAN and KADE of TMT and many others. A writer that is very over looked in history would have to be BILLY 167- SLICK Inc. I know other writers influenced Billy, but in my neighborhood he was the man. What I liked more about Billy as a person and a artist, he was incredibly humble. Ill miss him ( R.I.P )

9.) Were you very effective in the insides of the trains and can you tell us other writers that you feel killed the insides? I wasn't a big insides writer. My first memory of bombing the insides was on the Ds with *Mitch 77* and *Rock 161. It wasn’t my cup of tea; I thought it was too messy. But later on when I moved from Morris Park Avenue to 231 Street and Broadway, for a while I bombed the insides of the Ds and CCs yard in the Bronx every Sunday afternoon with my brother Ace 5. I still hated the mess. As to the second part of your question, some of the names that I remember who killed the insides were Ban 2, Zephyr, Team, Tean, Kade, Duro, Dondi, and there were so many more. I do remember BOM 5. He was already ahead of the game because he had a lot of artistic ability. I still have his face in my mind. What struck me the most about BOM 5* was he didn’t try to act like somebody he wasn’t. He was real. So was a writer by the name of Rolieo. Both had similar personalities.

10.) In the 1970's the Outlaw gangs were very big though in New York city. Could you tell us some of the groups in your area and they ever course a problem in you getting up In the 1970's there were allot of gangs in the Bronx. I don’t remember the Bronx Rollers the gang allegedly Cap was seeking membership into. The gangs I do remember are biker gangs that hung in the 180’s off Park Avenue, in the Bronx. Of course the Black Spades, Satan’s ( SHORTY 5 and JOHN 150 were members of this such group, to the best of my recollection) and Chingalings. I never had a problem with any of the various gangs in the Bronx or elsewhere. As far as Racking up paint was concerned On a small scale we racked stores from Martin Paints in the Bronx to stores down on Canal Street and Chinatown. On a larger scale, the first store we robbed was in Westchester Square in the East Bronx with UA. The next big one Colt and I robbed was Martin Paints on Gunhill Road with sledgehammers. We knocked out the back cinderblock wall. They used to call us the “Sledge Boys.” When we finally got into Martin Paints, the person who was supposed to meet us with a vehicle didn’t show up, so we had to call a cab. We called “Always Dependable” on Boston Road. The cab was driven by a retired NYC Policeman! We had a 3 man chain hauling paint and other stuff out of the store. We did a lot of stores like that not even related to Graffiti.


11.) Could you tell us all the writers that pushed M.P.C though out the years? The Crew grew over the years even once I stopped writing It got bigger under Cap's leadership. There have been so many writers that kept the crew alive over the years. Here is a list of allot of the member's who pushed MPC with a little help from Paulie Skay. Wedge 3, Speed 3, Slip 3 , Colt 1 ( RIP ), Pisces , Take 1 aka Juga , Jim 167 , Ace 5 , Rock 161 , Phil 2 , Coz , Spy 2 , Vile 1 , Cid , Doc, Kass , Hell 161 , Cap one aka Serge 34, Kid 167 , Jest ua mpc , Cop 1 , Pal 13 , Rock 150, Tac 3 , Kado 7 aka Ko 7 , Caban , Ad , Rook 2, CAL 3, Flint, Rec , Rust , Ross , Km 177, Coke, Rad , Rest mpc , Rush mpc , Bear 3 , Cop 5 , Billy 167 , Shorty 5 , Smiley 149, Hippie 44 , Mez , Mars , Bd , Tac , Sac , Paws ,S.kay , Des , Elf , Mazz who later handed the name down to his younger brother Mazz one , Not , Echo , Ed , Vern , Dose , Man 1 , Vince , Loose , Mex , Daze , Odin , Void , Sick , Sane , Acke , Kno , Pike, Cim , Fen , Rebel , Epic , Shy 147, Tune , BOM 5, Rip 7 , Bane mpc ( Bom5’s younger Brother ) , Nike , Lue , Cult , Agent , Pove Gu, Mpc, Janet , Bust Mpc ( RIP ), Med & Fayde , Jayson /Terror 161 , Ammo ,Tide , Cav, Mkay, Sent, Hemo , Jin , Blist , Jent , Pavo, Saint Tmr-Ris , Cro one mpc , Chino Byi , Reas , Kirs , C J , Jerry , Nk , Blame , Hint , Rail , Cade , Photo , Limo , Mac , Ty 3 , Clame , Acept , Chopper , Cope 2 , Zeel , Ghost- Ris, Gato -Ris , Neo- Ris , Sacko , Sab , Comic , Pyro , there is more but this is what I have for now. The last time I hit the subways was early 1982. I stopped because I had to try to start growing up—but
that took a long time, regardless of Graffiti. It’s been a long road and it’s good to see that there are still people around doing well and hopefully will continue to do so. I am especially impressed with the ones who are able to earn an income from an art form that I think

some people didn’t anticipate how large and significant it would become. As far as my life, things have worked out quite well for me. I am married, have kids, good career job, and life is good, I have to remember that and I wish everybody well, regardless of whether I knew you or didn’t. God Bless! I would like to thank Ace5 for editing this .And a special thanks to the true historian of the Mighty Morris Park Crew PAULIE-SKAY for whom helped jog my memory, gave me the pictures and proof from a time in my life that I have the fondest memories of Thanks! And thanks to Subway Outlaws for allowing me to tell my story. Long live M.P.C!!!!
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We would like to thank Paulie Skay for all his help towards the history of MPC Crew....Photo credits go to PAULIE -SKAY, BLADE, SLIP 3..., ALE, BAN 2 , DES 1-MPC, SAR TMB, TRACY 168, and the team at Subway Outlaws.com. Reproduction in whole or in part without permission is prohibited. Copyright © Subway outlaws.com 2003. Should any one have photos of THE MPC CREW work, Please contact us at MESSAGE@SUBWAYOUTLAWS.COM